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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2012, 12:36:24 PM »
Don't make decisions on that motor based on my input ...I'm asking questions, not answering them!  I would just look into it a bit and find out for sure what the whole story is before committing.

Diesel is compatible with epoxy, so you should be able to build your tanks.  Tanks outboard or inboard of the outer bearers (web stringers) should be fine.  Outboard will slow roll a tad but "in the noise" if you know what I mean.  How much fuel are you thinking of?  Keep it amidships or slightly aft, e.g. don't put it forward nor all the way in the stern.  Also ...check with your insurance company.  Sometimes homemade built-in tanks increases insurance costs, e.g. a repeating year after year payment, while commercially built tanks don't ...the long run savings may more than pay for the commercially built tanks.  That's IF the insurance rates are higher for built-ins.  Check and see... Most insurance companies are not keen with 'I built it myself'...

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2012, 10:55:28 AM »
Don't make decisions on that motor based on my input ...I'm asking questions, not answering them!  I would just look into it a bit and find out for sure what the whole story is before committing.
I underkastumble, alas, I dont really know either, I have had no time to really research, I wish to visit Muzzas friend here in Perth, "hav'a beer" an shoot da breeze a bit with him on all things nautical so to speak...

Diesel is compatible with epoxy, so you should be able to build your tanks.  Tanks outboard or inboard of the outer bearers (web stringers) should be fine.  Outboard will slow roll a tad but "in the noise" if you know what I mean.  How much fuel are you thinking of?  Keep it amidships or slightly aft, e.g. don't put it forward nor all the way in the stern.  Also ...check with your insurance company.  Sometimes homemade built-in tanks increases insurance costs, e.g. a repeating year after year payment, while commercially built tanks don't ...the long run savings may more than pay for the commercially built tanks.  That's IF the insurance rates are higher for built-ins.  Check and see... Most insurance companies are not keen with 'I built it myself'...
Mmmmmm, insurance huh? yea...... scourge of da sea's dem da bean counters! Keel haul'm I say!  >:(
Tanks thinking from aboat 22" forward of the rear transom to aboat 3M forward, there's aboat 600 Lt there (pints lol)


Love the idea of all that space midships free for useful stowage, then theres the grey water tank forward of the fuel tank Port side.....
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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2012, 08:41:12 AM »
Here's a lnk to photobucket of my transom lamination/build
http://s832.photobucket.com/albums/zz247/Da-Edster/
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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2012, 02:30:32 AM »
Hey there Ed. finally got out to the boat, had to pump out the bilges after all that rain last 2 weeks. Whilst there I took a few foters of things not to do... and some done by me I will just have to tell later.

1st off is the reason why I came to this site, looking for cabin ideas.  OK if the writing dont come out clear the red lines show the wasted space caused by the raked streamline cabin.. bit of a stupid idea for something designed to do 12 knots max.
The green is the potential space gained by a forward facing screen ala Prince Whatever, sorry Bryan if I bastardized your design drawing it...  dont cry too much.

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2012, 02:41:24 AM »
If you are going to use the space under the captains chair for a fridge think about the door opening... we didnt. Once we installed the very fancy canter table/engine cover thingo we couldnt open the expensive fancy fridge thingo... Oh Farko we said.. result is a big waste of now unusable fridge space and a loss of money on compressors and chiller stuff..

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2012, 02:42:40 AM »
Opps file to big, just like the farkup!!!

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« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2012, 02:54:13 AM »
When designing the galley so the wahine can whip up some kai whilst you hunt ol' ika nui .... check the back of the oven for gas fittings, dont just build the woodwork based on the bumf from the brochure..... otherwise it will sit forward on the plinth and make it impossible to open the doors of the drawers beside it... well thats not the worst option, the other flash gas stove had a pipe fitting that came straight out the side and into the companionway!!! it wasnt left/right optional and it was  very expensive ( read cheap Italian schitt for the 1st world countries)otherwise we could have drilled a hole into the sink bench and all would have been kapai.
Now dont laught too hard at me and my floating muckups Ed, coz at least all our muckups are afloat and capable of taking us out fishing!!!!   :P :P

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #67 on: May 21, 2012, 10:51:24 AM »
Hey there Ed. finally got out to the boat, had to pump out the bilges after all that rain last 2 weeks. Whilst there I took a few foters of things not to do... and some done by me I will just have to tell later.

1st off is the reason why I came to this site, looking for cabin ideas.  OK if the writing dont come out clear the red lines show the wasted space This space usually houses the loo or shower or hanging lockers, never wasted - this space in my boot will house the loo/shower an udder side a locker an drawers caused by the raked streamline cabin.. bit of a stupid idea Mmmmmmm.... for something designed to do 12 knots max. remove da packed mud from under the peddle bud
, that'll get you a few more k's lol   

The green is the potential space gained by a forward facing screen ala Prince Whatever, sorry Bryan if I bastardized your design drawing it...  dont cry too much. sob, think the boot looks ok, but perhaps chain saw it in half and add a few feet.....? I didn't say that...
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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2012, 10:52:34 AM »
If you are going to use the space under the captains chair for a fridge think about the door opening... we didnt. Once we installed the very fancy canter table/engine cover thingo we couldnt open the expensive fancy fridge thingo... Oh Farko we said.. result is a big waste of now unusable fridge space and a loss of money on compressors and chiller stuff.. hehe
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« Reply #69 on: May 21, 2012, 10:57:08 AM »
When designing the galley so the wahine can whip up some kai whilst you hunt ol' ika nui .... check the back of the oven for gas fittings, dont just build the woodwork based on the bumf from the brochure..... otherwise it will sit forward on the plinth and make it impossible to open the doors of the drawers beside it... well thats not the worst option, the other flash gas stove had a pipe fitting that came straight out the side and into the companionway!!! it wasnt left/right optional and it was  very expensive ( read cheap Italian schitt for the 1st world countries)otherwise we could have drilled a hole into the sink bench and all would have been kapai.
Now dont laught too hard at me and my floating muckups Ed, coz at least all our muckups are afloat and capable of taking us out fishing!!!!   :P :P  Mmmmmmm muttta mutta mutta

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2012, 11:01:31 AM »
ammuzzing readng lol, well I've bin chomping at da bit here - lottsa thunking to avoid um, things that go bump in the knee.
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« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2012, 11:04:28 AM »
Tranny on, looking at putting a door in, Mmmmmm, lotta work an lot of brain freezes, glazing eyes, coffee ana smoke had it sorted last w/e!
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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2012, 11:08:52 AM »
Laminated the tranny with 2 x 6mm ply, short of room so built in inside the hull. Borrowed the bricks.....
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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #73 on: May 21, 2012, 11:13:12 AM »
...I poured buckets of wheel weights on my pilot house roof when I was laminating it this weekend.  Every try to pick up 170# of wheel weights in a bucket and pour them out?  That's how many lbs are in a 5-gallon bucket... I have them because I smelt and alloy them for casting bullets ...got about 1200# of wheel weights sitting around under the bottom shelf in the shop...

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Re: Ed's boat in Perth
« Reply #74 on: May 21, 2012, 11:17:11 AM »
! typo? wheel or u mean real? lol
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